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We know the scriptures are changing in unnatural, supernatural ways. YouTube limits how in-depth our discussions can go. That’s why this forum exists: to dig deeper into our observations, comments, and research. This board is for those who see these changes, to collaborate, explore, and support each other in this journey. Let's build a community where every insight and experience is valued, and together, uncover the profound truths of these un-natural shifts in the Bible Texts.

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#31
Downloads / King James Desktop
Last post by Tim - Oct 23, 2024, 12:20 PM

Desktop King James Bible 98. This is the program I use on my desktop. To me, the older the software, the better.
#32
General Discussion / Why Some Christians Can’t (or ...
Last post by Monty - Oct 23, 2024, 11:02 AM
There's no doubt that the claim of supernatural Bible changes is a frightening topic. Many Christians remain firm in their belief that the Bible, particularly the King James Version (KJV), is infallible and unchanging. So why is it that some believers, especially those within certain theological traditions, cannot or refuse to acknowledge that alterations are taking place? Let's explore a few reasons behind this resistance, focusing on the mindset of KJV-Only (KJVO) premillennial dispensationalists, including Fundamental Baptists.

1. Doctrinal Certainty and the Unchangeable Word 
One of the core beliefs held by many Christians, especially within KJVO circles, is that God's Word will never change. Citing passages like Psalm 119:89 ("For ever, O Lord, thy word is settled in heaven") and Isaiah 40:8 ("The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever"), they hold to a theological certainty that the Scriptures are untouchable. For Fundamental Baptists and KJVO premillennial dispensationalists, this belief is foundational to their faith.

Many in these groups take this stance so seriously that to suggest the Bible has changed supernaturally feels like a direct attack on the integrity of God's promises. To them, it seems inconceivable that a text that has stood as the standard of truth for centuries could be altered, either by supernatural forces or otherwise. For these believers, acknowledging that changes have occurred would create a deep crisis of faith—forcing them to question long-held doctrines about divine preservation and the inerrancy of Scripture.

2. The Fear of Deception 
Another reason many Christians refuse to see or accept supernatural Bible changes is the fear of being deceived. This is especially prevalent in premillennial dispensationalist circles, where believers are often highly alert to potential deceptions as they await the end times. They are familiar with warnings such as Matthew 24:24, which speaks of false prophets and the elect being deceived. For these Christians, the idea that changes could happen in the Bible itself may appear as a deception meant to undermine their faith.

To them, anyone claiming that the text of the Bible is being altered might be seen as falling prey to Satan's cunning, leading others away from the true, unchanging Word of God. Thus, rather than questioning what they see in the pages of Scripture, they might be more inclined to dismiss the idea of changes entirely, viewing it as a trap laid by the enemy.

3. Doctrinal Gatekeeping in Fundamental Baptist Circles 
Within the Fundamental Baptist community, there is often a strong emphasis on doctrinal purity and adherence to established truths. Many Fundamental Baptists adhere to KJV-Onlyism, believing that the King James Bible is the divinely preserved Word of God, and that all modern translations are corrupt or inferior. For a group so dedicated to the defense of the KJV, admitting the possibility of changes, even supernatural ones, would be tantamount to admitting that the Bible is no longer trustworthy—a position that is unacceptable to them.

The KJVO premillennial dispensationalist perspective is often deeply intertwined with a literal interpretation of prophecy and a belief that God has uniquely preserved the King James Bible for English-speaking people. To concede that supernatural forces are altering Scripture would not only disrupt their theological framework but would also challenge their understanding of God's sovereign control over His Word.

4. Cognitive Dissonance and Tradition 
For Christians who have built their faith around the belief that the Bible cannot change, the cognitive dissonance of witnessing changes in Scripture is profound. Even if they notice discrepancies between what they remember and what is now written, they may explain it away as a fault in their memory or simply not question it at all. Tradition plays a powerful role in this. Pastors, scholars, and teachers they've respected for years reinforce the idea that God's Word is immovable, creating an echo chamber where any contrary view is automatically dismissed.

This is particularly evident among Fundamental Baptists, who have long defended the King James Bible as the only true and faithful English translation. Their defense of the KJV is not just a matter of preference but of doctrinal conviction. In their view, the Bible cannot change because to accept that would be to question God's sovereignty and His ability to preserve His Word, which they've been taught is infallible. As a result, when presented with evidence of supernatural changes, many within this group respond with skepticism, dismissing the claims as impossible.

5. A Deeper Spiritual Battle 
For some, it may be more than just doctrinal rigidity or fear of deception—it may be a matter of spiritual blindness. 2 Corinthians 4:4 speaks of the "god of this world" blinding the minds of unbelievers, but even believers can fall into spiritual blindness when their hearts are hardened by pride or fear. The very idea that something supernatural could be altering the sacred text may be too frightening for some to process, so they reject it outright to avoid facing the uncomfortable reality.

Conclusion 
While the issue of supernatural Bible changes remains controversial, it's important to understand that for many Christians—particularly those within the KJV-Only premillennial dispensationalist and Fundamental Baptist traditions—the refusal to acknowledge these changes comes from a deeply rooted theological framework. For them, the Bible is not just a sacred text but the very foundation of their faith. Admitting that changes have taken place would require a re-examination of long-held beliefs about divine preservation, the nature of Scripture, and even God's sovereignty. For now, many will continue to cling to the belief that "the Word of God shall stand forever," even as they turn a blind eye to the changes unfolding before them.
#33
Video Showcase / Tim's video on Robert Breaker
Last post by Monty - Oct 23, 2024, 10:40 AM

In this video, titled "Shocking Discoveries: Is Robert Breaker Misquoting the KJV?" Tim brings a thought-provoking investigation into Robert Breaker's biblical references. Robert Breaker, a well-known YouTube evangelist and teacher, has been quoting Bible verses that appear to have shifted due to supernatural changes. Tim walks viewers through some astounding examples, comparing how these verses used to read versus how they appear today in the King James Version.

One of the most interesting aspects of the video is Tim's use of a whiteboard to mirror Breaker's own teaching style, making it easier to follow along with the analysis. Key verses such as 1 Peter 4:8 and Hebrews 6:6 are examined in detail, with clips of Robert Breaker reading them aloud. Tim points out that Breaker is either quoting from memory or referencing how these verses once appeared, that he argues have now supernaturally changed.

The video also provides compelling side-by-side comparisons of what Robert remembers versus the current text in the King James Bible, highlighting changes in wording that alter the original meaning. Overall, this video offers a clear and well-structured presentation of the supernatural Bible changes, with Robert Breaker's own words adding weight to Tim's claims.
#34
Collaboration / Re: The book of Jude, thee's, ...
Last post by Monty - Oct 23, 2024, 09:15 AM
It looks like you've started digging into some intriguing residue work with the book of Jude, especially focusing on the shift from Elizabethan pronouns like "thee" and "thou" to modern pronouns like "you." I've noticed similar changes over time in other passages of the KJV as well. It's interesting that you're using Jude as a starting point since, as you pointed out, it's a smaller, sometimes overlooked book.

The pattern you're noticing, especially with the singular vs. plural pronouns, lines up with a lot of these supernatural Bible changes. "Thee" and "thou" definitely had their place in the King James tradition, carrying a sense of individual intimacy that gets lost when modern "you" becomes the substitute. It's part of what makes these changes significant — they affect the tone and depth of meaning.

What you've listed about the Elizabethan pronouns is spot on. They were specific, formal, and intentional in conveying who was being addressed. It seems that part of the charm of the original text was this distinction between singular and plural, formal and informal — a nuance that's largely faded with modern English. That shift could be considered another residue, a hint at what once was.

I'd be curious to see what else you uncover in Jude, and how other verses may have changed over time. If you're finding differences in pronoun usage here, it's likely that other books of the New Testament will have similar patterns.
#35
General Discussion / Hello, I'm Monty
Last post by Monty - Oct 23, 2024, 09:08 AM
I'm glad to join this community of fellow Bible believers and seekers of truth. I've been studying Scripture for many years, and like many of you, I've noticed some unsettling changes in my beloved King James Bible. These changes seem to have an otherworldly nature, and I believe we're facing something that goes beyond human tampering.

For those who don't know me yet, I've been defending the KJV for nearly 30 years and am the researcher behind Amos8.org. I'm here to learn, share what I've found, and encourage us all to keep standing strong on God's Word in the midst of these strange and supernatural times.
#36
Collaboration / The book of Jude, thee's, thou...
Last post by Tim - Oct 23, 2024, 08:42 AM
This morning, I started a search on Jude for residue. Not that I'm limiting it to thee's and thou's, but looking for "in general residue" to this sometimes ignored book of the Bible. Here was my starting point:

Jude 1:2 Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied. (KJV as it is today)

AS IT WAS: Jude 1:2 Mercy unto thee, and peace, and love, be multiplied. (KJV)


Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. (KJV as it is today)

AS IT WAS: Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto thee of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto thee, and exhort thee that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. (KJV)

Knowing that the King James did not use the modern pronouns, but the Elizabethan;

Elizabethan pronouns include:

Thou: An informal second person singular pronoun used as a subject. For example, "Thou art a knave!".
Thee: An informal second person singular pronoun used as an object. For example, "I shall give it to thee".
Thy: Used instead of "your". For example, "thy house, thy dog, thy book".
Thine: Used before words beginning with a vowel. For example, "thine apple".
Ye: An informal second person plural pronoun used to refer to "you all". For example, "Ye all shalt come".
#37
General Discussion / Hey USINJESUSMarlene
Last post by Tim - Oct 23, 2024, 12:04 AM

USINJESUSMarlene, welcome to the board and thanks for joining. Do you want to tell us a bit about yourself?
#38
General Discussion / Re: Answering a Brother on You...
Last post by Tim - Oct 22, 2024, 05:36 PM
Yep, still not shadow banned.
#39
Video Showcase / James 4:7 "he will flee from t...
Last post by Tim - Oct 22, 2024, 12:31 PM
This is my release of James 4 7 Resist the devil, and he will flee from thee Supernatural Bible Change, where we will begin a series of thee, thou, and thine removal proof videos.
#40
Collaboration / Re: Resist the devil, and he w...
Last post by Tim - Oct 19, 2024, 11:19 PM
The YouTube Search was even more surprising.


Apostle Barry Spates_Apostolic Preaching_ Resist The Devil And He Will Flee Form Thee..mp4

time stamp 30:07 and 30:13


There is a bunch more there...

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